[cedarforest]

I think GSA/GA is one of the greatest (as in best), experiences I've ever had. So, I'm all with ya, when you say the physical part, such as touch, smell, & bonding. It's what you call, the "entire physical part" (AKA sex), that we have an impasse on. Call me a prude, but I feel there are healthy ways & unhealthy ways to live. Sex is a gift, but one to be used specifically, not whenever we "want to". When it's engaged in between siblings & parents/offspring, it's BAD, there's no two ways about it. Of course, since I'm on a site where others will disagree with me, I will preface this by saying this is my opinion. But, society & the legal system will back me up on this.

I say that with full knowledge of the mechanics of GSA, plus I'm one who is a principle offender. Some of our greatest lessons, are learned thru many tears & regrets. I hope others can be spared unnecessary pain.--cedarforest

PS: Love does suffer. We saw my daughter breast feed her 1st born son, born yesterday, just a short time ago. It was a VERY suffering experience for her, but she endured suffering for her love for her son. There are myriads & myriads of times you will "suffer", b/c of love.

And, yes, we must love ourselves enough to not allow ourselves to be mistreated. But there is a huge difference between allowing gross mistreatment, & deferring our interests for the wellbeing of others.