BEWARE SICK CHILD MOLESTER IN THE ROOM SEE HORRIBLE CONFESSI

[luvsbubby]

SEE HORRIBLE CONFESSION THERE IS A SICKO IN THE ROOM SAYING HE LIKES 2-14 YEAR OLD GIRLS. I HOPE ITS A COP CUZ THIS GUY MAKES ME WANT TO KILL HIM FOR REAL
LUVSBUBBY

[eggs]

Originally Posted by luvsbubby

SEE HORRIBLE CONFESSION THERE IS A SICKO IN THE ROOM SAYING HE LIKES 2-14 YEAR OLD GIRLS. I HOPE ITS A COP CUZ THIS GUY MAKES ME WANT TO KILL HIM FOR REAL
LUVSBUBBY

certainly there are questions about how pedophilic attractions can be expressed, but how can you question a person's right to experience their particular reality. what's more, zlurkers comments are essentially on the topic introduced by radical_neutural, & his suggestions have some value.

at what point wld you set limits on his right to exist? are you really in a position to judge him, given yr somewhat homocidal & fascistic ubermorality? wld you support a 'final solution' for pedophiles, given that the vast majority are guilty of no crime & harm nobody?

[luvsbubby]

Anyone who is turned on and attracted to children is sick. I dont care if they act or not. As a survivor of child abuse I have a right to think or say whatever I want just as you think he does. As a human being I have a right to judge also, just as people do. How dare you say that I am not entitled to my thoughts or actions yet some sick fuck does? And again, this site is not for child molesters and pedos. So why dont you just leave. If not I will continue to respond the way I have and be relentless in doing so. Just because I have thought about what I would do if I found out a sick fuck like this doesnt make me homicidal, and if it does I guess that makes me of criminal mind also. But fighting for the good fight, I will not back down and say you are right or that you have any rights. Again DIE a horrible death!!!!

[eggs]

Originally Posted by luvsbubby

Anyone who is turned on and attracted to children is sick. I dont care if they act or not.

well ok, lets say they are sick. is illness a crime? if a person is attracted to children, the best thing is for them to learn to live w/ their attraction & express it in ways that are not harmful to children. there are many people who have done this. personally i believe pedophilia is no more a sickness than masturbation, homosexuality or nymphomania, all of which have accompanied it in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders at some time.

it is obvious to anybody who studies pedophilia that integrating this phenomenon into society is far safer for children than turning pedophiles into an embittered & embattled outgroup. as i said above, most child molesters aren't pedophiles anyway, just sexual bullies whose victim happens to be a child.

here are a couple of quotes from experts in the field...

“Sexual arousal patterns to children are subjectively reported and physiologically demonstrable in a substantial minority of "normal" people. Historically, they have been common and accepted in varying cultures at varying times. This does not mean that they must be accepted culturally and legally today. The question is: Do they constitute a mental illness? Not unless we declare a lot of people in many cultures and in much of the past to be mentally ill. And certainly not by the criteria of DSM.”
Professor Richard Green, Research Director of the Gender Identity Clinic at Charing Cross Hospital

“The dilemma is tragic because the pedophile's sexual orientation is deeply rooted in the basic structure of his identity. Pedophilia is as much a part of him as is love for the same or opposite sex for the homosexual or heterosexual man or woman, the difference being that the one is accepted, while the other is categorically forbidden and virtually impossible to realize. In view of the pedophile's burden, the necessity of denying himself the experience of love and sexuality, he deserves respect, rather than contempt.”
Professor Gunter Schmidt, Director, Division of Sex Research, Psychiatric and Nerve Clinic, University of Hamburg, Germany

Originally Posted by luvsbubby

As a survivor of child abuse I have a right to think or say whatever I want just as you think he does. As a human being I have a right to judge also, just as people do. How dare you say that I am not entitled to my thoughts or actions yet some sick fuck does?

yes, he has rights just as you do. rights come w/ responsibilities. i'm very sorry to hear you are a survivor of child abuse. i agree with you that child molesting is one of the most chilling & repugnant of crimes. it really is the 'rape of childhood'. i am in no way minimizing the harm of that.

we have to be careful what we define as harmful when the evidence is more equivocal. we have to be especially careful when positive childhood experiences are reinterpreted by adults as abusive, or when a raft of normal, trivial or benign sexual interactions between adults & children are identified as 'suspect' or 'innapropriate' & ultimately 'abusive'. it is normal for adults & children to interact in sensual, loving, intimate ways, & this behaviour is sometimes so close to sexual behaviour that the lines can be blurry. there is no justification in describing these behaviours as abusive if they aren't.

the extreme moralism that attaches itself to this question increases the risk to children of being sexually assaulted. if you really want to limit the chances of what happened to you occuring again to other children, you need to get past yr own anger & pain. i kno this sounds patronizing, but its the truth.

Originally Posted by luvsbubby

And again, this site is not for child molesters and pedos. So why dont you just leave. If not I will continue to respond the way I have and be relentless in doing so.

radical_neutural was worried about his attraction to a 12yo half sister. i think he was as much concerned about his age as her family connection. a lot of pedophiles have experienced & managed strong attraction to young people, so their input might be helpful. i didn't see any posts that suggested he shld sleep w/ her. pedophilia 'sufferers' manage 'unnacceptable' sexual attractions all the time, just as gsa 'sufferers' do.

otoh, i didn't come here to browbeat anybody, & i am sensitive to the offence this might cause, so i apologize for upsetting you. i myself won't be saying anything else about pedopilia on this board unless somebody else prompts further discussion.

Originally Posted by luvsbubby

Just because I have thought about what I would do if I found out a sick fuck like this doesnt make me homicidal, and if it does I guess that makes me of criminal mind also. But fighting for the good fight, I will not back down and say you are right or that you have any rights. Again DIE a horrible death!!!!

whatever

[mwoo6i1485]

totally agree i thaught this site was a releise and support for consenting adults not for the amusement of child molesters...

Originally Posted by luvsbubby

Anyone who is turned on and attracted to children is sick. I dont care if they act or not. As a survivor of child abuse I have a right to think or say whatever I want just as you think he does.

That someone did evil towards you doesn't make someone else accountable for those actions. Nor does it make the statement 'pedophile=child molester' true.

As a human being I have a right to judge also, just as people do. How dare you say that I am not entitled to my thoughts or actions yet some sick fuck does? And again, this site is not for child molesters and pedos.

There aren't any child molesters here. And whether the site is for some other law abiding person isn't up to you.

So why dont you just leave. If not I will continue to respond the way I have and be relentless in doing so. Just because I have thought about what I would do if I found out a sick fuck like this doesnt make me homicidal, and if it does I guess that makes me of criminal mind also. But fighting for the good fight, I will not back down and say you are right or that you have any rights. Again DIE a horrible death!!!!

If he doesn't have any rights, then human rights don't exist and none of what was done to you was wrong [nor is any atrocity wrong - murder, terrorism, death camps, all A-okay]. Be careful of the statements you make about the value of human life - they always apply to you too.

[rollingrocker1972]

I've been expecting his type for some time now. It is quite common for those who abuse children to try and insinuate themselves into communities based around another paraphilia. Child molesters have infiltrated the gay community in the form of Nambla, to the point now that many people see no difference between a gay man and a man who molests little boys.

GSA is itself a form of incest, and child molesters have so long dominated the question of incest as a whole that the term incest is now nearly synonymous with the abuse of a child by an adult relative.

The truth of course is that the sexual abuse of children has nothing to do with consensual adult homosexuality, consensual adult incest, or with GSA.

So now a child molester has made his way into this forum as well. This is to be expected. Cockroaches will invade your kitchen, rats will scurry around in between the walls, and mice will nibble at the grain in your pantry. Child molesters are vermin too, and similarly difficult to eradicate.

The only way to get rid of a child molester is to refuse to engage them. Do not debate them. Do not entertain their arguments. Do not enter into dialogue with them. Whenever and whereever they appear, either ignore them, or be steadfast in your condemnation of them. Do not allow their sophistry to confuse the issue. Do not make the mistake of trying to reason with them. There is no use trying to talk to them, or convince them of the error of their ways for they are evil, and evil does not listen to reason.

[zlurker]

Originally Posted by rollingrocker1972

I've been expecting his type for some time now. It is quite common for those who abuse children to try and insinuate themselves into communities based around another paraphilia. Child molesters have infiltrated the gay community in the form of Nambla, to the point now that many people see no difference between a gay man and a man who molests little boys.

Perhaps you are part of the problem, since you cannot seem to distinguish between "attracted to children" and "child molester". If that is to be accepted, then why should the average person bother to distinguish between "gay" and "child molester"?

Originally Posted by rollingrocker1972

GSA is itself a form of incest, and child molesters have so long dominated the question of incest as a whole that the term incest is now nearly synonymous with the abuse of a child by an adult relative.

Yes, and child molesters have so long dominated the question of attraction to minors that the term pedophile is now nearly synonymous with the term child molester. I do not call myself a pedophile for that reason. I am a Child Lover (specifically, a Girl Lover). In my opinion, "Child Love" and "child molestation" are fundamentally incompatible.

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Originally Posted by rollingrocker1972

The only way to get rid of a child molester is to refuse to engage them. Do not debate them. Do not entertain their arguments. Do not enter into dialogue with them. Whenever and whereever they appear, either ignore them, or be steadfast in your condemnation of them. Do not allow their sophistry to confuse the issue. Do not make the mistake of trying to reason with them. There is no use trying to talk to them, or convince them of the error of their ways for they are evil, and evil does not listen to reason.

So... your advice is to do your best ostrich impression so as to remain willfully ignorant?

Anyway, where is this child molester you are talking about?

[luvsbubby]

Rollingrocker
I totally agree with everything you said, and its sad that these ignorant people come here professing to be so intelligent. So intelligent that they have come here and have not realized that just their presence here is out of context. The people here are either involved with a relative, or struggling with whether they should or not. There is nothing in this site that refers to children, except the occasional minor who questions whether they should be with a relative. They even failed to realize that Radical is a child himself and that doesnt qualify him as a child molester or being into child porn. If they were smart enough to know what the definition of incest is they would know that in the definition it is implied that incest is consentual sex between to person who are related. Nothing about children in the definition. My hb and I are still going strong after 6.5 years, how are you and yr sis? Hope you had a romantic and sexy Valentine's Day. Thanks for the reply to the post, it helped me calm the desire to continue argueing an endless fight with these dumbfucks! I have nothing more to say to them.
luvsbubby

[samtroy]

I find it mad that you too can be so sanctimonious about zlurker who is NOT saying he is a paedophile while at the same time asking each other about sexy Valentines with your sister! In the eyes of the law that too is an offence so think long and hard about condemning others when you too are on unclear moral grounbd. I understand that this forum is about GSA but surely about how to help people overcome it as much as possible.