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kmk91 · 11-03-2007, 11:33 AM

ok, first things first, im new to this whole site. this is my first topic that i've posted and this is where im going to take the opportunity to explain to all of you my current situation.

obviously this all pertains to GSA so in my case, it involves me and my h/s. she is turning 24 this december and i am turning 18. as of right now, we are very open towards each other with our feelings. we're like the same people so we feel very comfortable with each other. but here's the history. before i was born, my mother had been on and off with my biological father for up to 7 years. little did she know that he was still married with 4 children, actually 5 but no one but him had known about her til much later. he had told my mother that he was on the verge of a divorce, so they continued their relationship.

After these 7 years, i was born, and since he had another family still, he could not have much to do with me. after the gae of 2, he had completely disappeared from my life. 15 years later, i attempted to track him down. i couldnt find his name, but luckily my mom knew my sisters names, and so i looked them up online and after years of waiting, i had found my family. i felt overwhelmed with joy. at first i talked to all of them and tried to get to know them. we met about 3 days after i had found them , which happened to be about a month ago.

But after the first day, i had talked to my one sister more then all of the others. we connected instantly and talked all day, every day. i knew i was in love just by the way we talked to each other, and once i saw her for the first time it was inevitable. she has told me that she feels the same way for me and we are very affectionate with each other. lataely we've been in a tight position, because we had both found this site and, after reading many stories, she thinks it's a lot harder then we thought to go on with a relationship like this. obviously we love each other very much and want to be together but she says that she wants to live in the moment and be happy now, but i want to be together forever. i understand that that's a lot to ask for but that's what i want. we got past that and stopped arguing about it and now we're just trying to think of all the good thingsthat can come out of this and all the happiness we want.

i want nothing more then to be happy with her but these stupid laws and ignorant people are annoying me. in this case im very optimistic and want to think of everything that can make us happy together but at the moment there's little to nothing. i honestly think that no one can tell us who we can and can't love and that we should stick up fo what we think but that's just me. either way i want to be with her and her alone and would do anything to do so. is there any way that we can as a group try to help each other out to be happy the way we want to be? i would say tell me what you think about my situation but honestly, if it's anything but "be happy the way you want to be" then i won't care, but what do you people think about getting this to be a free place where two adults can be do what they want with who they want?

couRAGEous · 11-03-2007, 07:08 PM

kmk91

Hey Now...And a big WELCOME to you and your sister...My name is couRAGEous I am 26yrs old.. my Half Brothers name on here is ShedMyskin he’s 19yrs old..Recently we also posted our story on here titled “My Story, My Love, My Life”...If I know one thing I know I'm very, deeply in love with him..I want to be with him for the rest of my life..He has an effect on me that nobody has ever had on me..I know I don’t want to ever be without him..
This is really my personal views on this whole situation...If the two of you truely love each other, and know you can't live without each other...then DON'T...This is your guys life..Live and love like today is the last day on earth..You have to put society aside and go for it..We should be able to love whoever we want to love..I refuse to give society the power..That’s one thing I won't hand over is my mind ..This love is a very intense ,beautiful, magical,and vey colorful ..You will never come close to loving like this again..No love could ever compare..

We plan to hold on tight and never let go...Next year we will move in together.. Live life and enjoy each others company..We are a regular couple, but the love is much deeper that’s all..After he's done with school, we plan to move to France..We want to get married and start a family together..This will happen because we make our own rules..This is only as hard as you make it..If you feel it's hard make it easier..Take control of your future, and your happiness..This can have a happy ending..Just believe it will..keep in mind each other’s feelings, don’t try to ignore it, it will only cause additional pain...don’t give up...It might become difficult at times but its what builds us..that bond you guys will create will never be broken as long as you remain true to each other...

You asked is there any way we can as a group help each other out to live the way we want and in my opinion, we can...were doing that now,,,,That’s the mission of this website so we as a people can come together and help each other out with our own stories and experiences...society as a whole will not accept this anytime soon, its considered a social taboo and a lot of society’s are use to that idea and I doubt it will change anytime soon... and what place are you talking about when you say this place??? Because in certain places you can live legally as brother and sister and be in a relationship..Thats why we are planning on leaving, to make it easier on ourselves..but I agree with you no one should tell us who we should and shouldn’t love...everyone has the right to choose what they want and in certain society’s it is a contradiction..I believe that just like the homosexual community, we to should start up our own organization and fight back...

I don't know if any of this will help you. If you two ever want to talk to one of us...Feel free to private message us anytime..Take care of yourself and each other...

couRAGEous

kmk91 · 11-04-2007, 08:17 AM

thank you very much for your incite. your opinion is very much appreciated

i know that this place is for all of us to be free amongst each other and i understand that society sees this as taboo and probably won't change soon, but like you said about the homosexual community, we should fight back. we arn't hurting anyone and most of the relationships created through GSA are torn apart due to what others think and, like any other relationship, that's just wrong. i like your free spirit towards being able to love whoever, whenever, no matter what people think, quite an admirable quality.

i will be sure to talk to you again. thank you again and i'll be sure to pm soon!

BarbGonyo · 11-04-2007, 09:20 AM

I can certainly see your situation and feel your anxiety but I want to make a statement to your comment about the purpose of this site and hope others will also read it.

My purpose in starting this site was to educate GSA people and others about what this is all about in hopes that there would be understanding about what strong feelings come up in reunions and the danger of keeping people apart as children so that later Genetic Attraction may not have Sex in it. It is a natural thing to be attracted to someone so like us that we never knew. Had we not been separated that stage of development would have been natural.

We are going to be running the GSA Survey very soon and hopefully get some further information on what GSA is doing to different people.

There are success stories to be read on this site and failures also. A success story doesn't always mean that they have gone on to live happily ever after without causing a lot of problems for themselves and many others. I could mean that they have found a way to love each other and become what they really are to each other such as siblings or parent/child.

The only true problem in GSA is the S. If a sexual relationship is not involved the problem could go away.. If anyone feels they can't live within that boundary, then they have to take what comes with that. That is not always the easy way.

I know you will be so happy to find people on this site that may think you are totally right and be your cheerleaders, but hopefully you will also listen to those who feel that this can be dealt with in different ways. That is the purpose of this site not just to find someone who agrees with you.

I'm not aiming this at you exclusively but at so many who think the world would or should come around to their way of seeing how the world should be in their eyes.

I know the world is filled with ponography and many people think that is not a problem. I don't agree. When this site gets full of it just because someone thinks it is alright, then it will no longer be able to exist. That would deter it's purpose and let someone elses view of right and wrong take over.

I don't stop them from wanting to share their views, but not on this site. They should have their own as I'm sure they have a lot of followers.

I'm not judging anyone because that is not my job. I didn't make the rules of the world and leave those decisions up to a much wiser source. I'm just trying to see if we can find a way to get through the stages of reunion and work out the issues before we think sex is the only answer.

Sometimes sex becomes the biggest enemy in a GSA long lasting relationship and those that think that is the answer may find that it is not only short lived but may cause separation forever.

I would like to say to you that due to your age and your sisters, you may end up with a lot more problmes down the road than you can forsee now.

I wish you well and hope that your relationship will be healthy, loving and healing.

Barb G

couRAGEous · 11-04-2007, 11:45 PM

kmk91

Hey I will be looking foward to hearing from you..I wanted to say a few words on what Barb wrote about

"I would like to say to you that due to your age and your sisters, you may end up with a lot more problmes down the road than you can forsee now."

I dont believe that at all..I'm 7years older then my half brother. Age does not matter in a relationship. If 2 people are in love, age is obviously not an issue for them. It may be an issue for others, but that's their problem.You won't have any problems because of age. if u truly love someone, age does not matter...neither does race, religion, background etc. cause real love overlooks differences & instead focuses on both parties' feelings for each other.
When people say stuff like that..It makes your drive and determination stronger.You're the only one who can judge what's worth risking and what isn't. The one thing I'd like you to ask yourself is, do you care enough about each other to walk through the fire? If you do, that's love.Stand tall and take care of yourself and each other...

couRAGEous

kelly · 11-05-2007, 07:36 PM

I am always very interested in Barb's posts there is obviouslly a lot of experience to be had there and i'm sure i will be asking questions soon.like this one
Quote "The only true problem in GSA is the S. If a sexual relationship is not involved the problem could go away.."
i take it the word could means maybe or maybe not
is there any way to know ????????
kells

ShedMYskin · 11-05-2007, 10:11 PM

Kelly,

Welcome to the site.

My H.S wrote on here she's couRAGEous...i dont agree with. "if a sexual relationship is not involved the problem could go away" because couples can have a sexual relationship and yes a stronger bond is created..but the key word is "could" its not guarenteed...Kelly what you have with your father is wonderful im sure...if you feel in your heart that you want t oestablish a sexual relationship then i would say go for it..im not telling you to go ahead and do it ...but if u feel it then all the better... dont try to do something if its gonan make you stop being yourself..do what you fee lin your heart is true and right for you.. .cant go wrong there...

hope that helped..for what its worth, dont deny your feelings ...you wont know what ull miss if things worked out ....u never know until you try...

N.P

BarbGonyo · 11-06-2007, 10:07 AM

I want to say something about age differences. I know this will not be a popular view but I've never been shy about what my experiences have taught me and I won't start now.

I don't think age difference should matter in a relationship except when one of the two parties is underage and the other is somewhat older and more experienced.

Not to mention the problem that could occur for the older person to have a sexual relationship with a person related or not related who is underage. This is a real law breaker. A law breaker that can mean jail time and a record for life.

When I think of young men under 20 and their level of maturity and sexual drive, I wonder how much wisdom goes into their needs.

I'm not excluding very young woman either who have a strong need for a father to come back into their lives and because they can't let him be a father because they have one already, think he is a soul mate.

I can certainly look back when I was their ages and know that my sexual decisions were not well thought out and caused me and others a lot of unneccessary heartache. They say with age comes wisdom. Thank God something comes with old age.

Barb G

kelly · 11-06-2007, 04:10 PM

why is this so complicated???
confused and sad

kells

kelly · 11-06-2007, 04:16 PM

i feel sometimes im being punished for something i havent done
i call this time my dark time
i havent done anything wrong ........ why do i feel so ashamed
today is a dark time

kells

11-03-2007, 11:33 AM	#1
kmk91 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Posts: 26	listen to this... ok, first things first, im new to this whole site. this is my first topic that i've posted and this is where im going to take the opportunity to explain to all of you my current situation. obviously this all pertains to GSA so in my case, it involves me and my h/s. she is turning 24 this december and i am turning 18. as of right now, we are very open towards each other with our feelings. we're like the same people so we feel very comfortable with each other. but here's the history. before i was born, my mother had been on and off with my biological father for up to 7 years. little did she know that he was still married with 4 children, actually 5 but no one but him had known about her til much later. he had told my mother that he was on the verge of a divorce, so they continued their relationship. After these 7 years, i was born, and since he had another family still, he could not have much to do with me. after the gae of 2, he had completely disappeared from my life. 15 years later, i attempted to track him down. i couldnt find his name, but luckily my mom knew my sisters names, and so i looked them up online and after years of waiting, i had found my family. i felt overwhelmed with joy. at first i talked to all of them and tried to get to know them. we met about 3 days after i had found them , which happened to be about a month ago. But after the first day, i had talked to my one sister more then all of the others. we connected instantly and talked all day, every day. i knew i was in love just by the way we talked to each other, and once i saw her for the first time it was inevitable. she has told me that she feels the same way for me and we are very affectionate with each other. lataely we've been in a tight position, because we had both found this site and, after reading many stories, she thinks it's a lot harder then we thought to go on with a relationship like this. obviously we love each other very much and want to be together but she says that she wants to live in the moment and be happy now, but i want to be together forever. i understand that that's a lot to ask for but that's what i want. we got past that and stopped arguing about it and now we're just trying to think of all the good thingsthat can come out of this and all the happiness we want. i want nothing more then to be happy with her but these stupid laws and ignorant people are annoying me. in this case im very optimistic and want to think of everything that can make us happy together but at the moment there's little to nothing. i honestly think that no one can tell us who we can and can't love and that we should stick up fo what we think but that's just me. either way i want to be with her and her alone and would do anything to do so. is there any way that we can as a group try to help each other out to be happy the way we want to be? i would say tell me what you think about my situation but honestly, if it's anything but "be happy the way you want to be" then i won't care, but what do you people think about getting this to be a free place where two adults can be do what they want with who they want?

11-04-2007, 09:20 AM	#4
BarbGonyo Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 301	Listen to this kmk91 I can certainly see your situation and feel your anxiety but I want to make a statement to your comment about the purpose of this site and hope others will also read it. My purpose in starting this site was to educate GSA people and others about what this is all about in hopes that there would be understanding about what strong feelings come up in reunions and the danger of keeping people apart as children so that later Genetic Attraction may not have Sex in it. It is a natural thing to be attracted to someone so like us that we never knew. Had we not been separated that stage of development would have been natural. We are going to be running the GSA Survey very soon and hopefully get some further information on what GSA is doing to different people. There are success stories to be read on this site and failures also. A success story doesn't always mean that they have gone on to live happily ever after without causing a lot of problems for themselves and many others. I could mean that they have found a way to love each other and become what they really are to each other such as siblings or parent/child. The only true problem in GSA is the S. If a sexual relationship is not involved the problem could go away.. If anyone feels they can't live within that boundary, then they have to take what comes with that. That is not always the easy way. I know you will be so happy to find people on this site that may think you are totally right and be your cheerleaders, but hopefully you will also listen to those who feel that this can be dealt with in different ways. That is the purpose of this site not just to find someone who agrees with you. I'm not aiming this at you exclusively but at so many who think the world would or should come around to their way of seeing how the world should be in their eyes. I know the world is filled with ponography and many people think that is not a problem. I don't agree. When this site gets full of it just because someone thinks it is alright, then it will no longer be able to exist. That would deter it's purpose and let someone elses view of right and wrong take over. I don't stop them from wanting to share their views, but not on this site. They should have their own as I'm sure they have a lot of followers. I'm not judging anyone because that is not my job. I didn't make the rules of the world and leave those decisions up to a much wiser source. I'm just trying to see if we can find a way to get through the stages of reunion and work out the issues before we think sex is the only answer. Sometimes sex becomes the biggest enemy in a GSA long lasting relationship and those that think that is the answer may find that it is not only short lived but may cause separation forever. I would like to say to you that due to your age and your sisters, you may end up with a lot more problmes down the road than you can forsee now. I wish you well and hope that your relationship will be healthy, loving and healing. Barb G __________________ Barbara is the author of "I'm His Mother,but He's Not My Son" (formerly titled "The Forbidden Love, GSA". In the paper back edition of Forbidden Love, there are a total of 20 books left in that form. "The Forbidden Love Genetic Sexual Attraction is $15.00 plus postage and handling. Postage varies in places. In the U.S. postage comes to $2.31 Austrailia Fast Slower $8.40 one week $4.05- 4 weeks New I'm His Mother, but, He's Not My Son" will now be available electronically for your convience. The price is $15.00 check made out to Barbara Gonyo 906 Ioka Mt. Prospect, IL 60056 Upon receiving the order you will be given instructions on how to obtain the book. I hope this will be helpful to all of you who were having trouble getting the book. Barb Gonyo

11-04-2007, 11:45 PM	#5
couRAGEous Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: United States Posts: 16	kmk91 Hey I will be looking foward to hearing from you..I wanted to say a few words on what Barb wrote about "I would like to say to you that due to your age and your sisters, you may end up with a lot more problmes down the road than you can forsee now." I dont believe that at all..I'm 7years older then my half brother. Age does not matter in a relationship. If 2 people are in love, age is obviously not an issue for them. It may be an issue for others, but that's their problem.You won't have any problems because of age. if u truly love someone, age does not matter...neither does race, religion, background etc. cause real love overlooks differences & instead focuses on both parties' feelings for each other. When people say stuff like that..It makes your drive and determination stronger.You're the only one who can judge what's worth risking and what isn't. The one thing I'd like you to ask yourself is, do you care enough about each other to walk through the fire? If you do, that's love.Stand tall and take care of yourself and each other... couRAGEous Last edited by couRAGEous : 11-04-2007 at 11:47 PM. Reason: add

11-06-2007, 10:07 AM	#8
BarbGonyo Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 301	Reply to Courageous I want to say something about age differences. I know this will not be a popular view but I've never been shy about what my experiences have taught me and I won't start now. I don't think age difference should matter in a relationship except when one of the two parties is underage and the other is somewhat older and more experienced. Not to mention the problem that could occur for the older person to have a sexual relationship with a person related or not related who is underage. This is a real law breaker. A law breaker that can mean jail time and a record for life. When I think of young men under 20 and their level of maturity and sexual drive, I wonder how much wisdom goes into their needs. I'm not excluding very young woman either who have a strong need for a father to come back into their lives and because they can't let him be a father because they have one already, think he is a soul mate. I can certainly look back when I was their ages and know that my sexual decisions were not well thought out and caused me and others a lot of unneccessary heartache. They say with age comes wisdom. Thank God something comes with old age. Barb G __________________ Barbara is the author of "I'm His Mother,but He's Not My Son" (formerly titled "The Forbidden Love, GSA". In the paper back edition of Forbidden Love, there are a total of 20 books left in that form. "The Forbidden Love Genetic Sexual Attraction is $15.00 plus postage and handling. Postage varies in places. In the U.S. postage comes to $2.31 Austrailia Fast Slower $8.40 one week $4.05- 4 weeks New I'm His Mother, but, He's Not My Son" will now be available electronically for your convience. The price is $15.00 check made out to Barbara Gonyo 906 Ioka Mt. Prospect, IL 60056 Upon receiving the order you will be given instructions on how to obtain the book. I hope this will be helpful to all of you who were having trouble getting the book. Barb Gonyo

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11-03-2007, 07:08 PM	#2
couRAGEous Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: United States Posts: 16	kmk91 Hey Now...And a big WELCOME to you and your sister...My name is couRAGEous I am 26yrs old.. my Half Brothers name on here is ShedMyskin he’s 19yrs old..Recently we also posted our story on here titled “My Story, My Love, My Life”...If I know one thing I know I'm very, deeply in love with him..I want to be with him for the rest of my life..He has an effect on me that nobody has ever had on me..I know I don’t want to ever be without him.. This is really my personal views on this whole situation...If the two of you truely love each other, and know you can't live without each other...then DON'T...This is your guys life..Live and love like today is the last day on earth..You have to put society aside and go for it..We should be able to love whoever we want to love..I refuse to give society the power..That’s one thing I won't hand over is my mind ..This love is a very intense ,beautiful, magical,and vey colorful ..You will never come close to loving like this again..No love could ever compare.. We plan to hold on tight and never let go...Next year we will move in together.. Live life and enjoy each others company..We are a regular couple, but the love is much deeper that’s all..After he's done with school, we plan to move to France..We want to get married and start a family together..This will happen because we make our own rules..This is only as hard as you make it..If you feel it's hard make it easier..Take control of your future, and your happiness..This can have a happy ending..Just believe it will..keep in mind each other’s feelings, don’t try to ignore it, it will only cause additional pain...don’t give up...It might become difficult at times but its what builds us..that bond you guys will create will never be broken as long as you remain true to each other... You asked is there any way we can as a group help each other out to live the way we want and in my opinion, we can...were doing that now,,,,That’s the mission of this website so we as a people can come together and help each other out with our own stories and experiences...society as a whole will not accept this anytime soon, its considered a social taboo and a lot of society’s are use to that idea and I doubt it will change anytime soon... and what place are you talking about when you say this place??? Because in certain places you can live legally as brother and sister and be in a relationship..Thats why we are planning on leaving, to make it easier on ourselves..but I agree with you no one should tell us who we should and shouldn’t love...everyone has the right to choose what they want and in certain society’s it is a contradiction..I believe that just like the homosexual community, we to should start up our own organization and fight back... I don't know if any of this will help you. If you two ever want to talk to one of us...Feel free to private message us anytime..Take care of yourself and each other... couRAGEous

11-04-2007, 08:17 AM	#3
kmk91 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Posts: 26	thank you very much for your incite. your opinion is very much appreciated i know that this place is for all of us to be free amongst each other and i understand that society sees this as taboo and probably won't change soon, but like you said about the homosexual community, we should fight back. we arn't hurting anyone and most of the relationships created through GSA are torn apart due to what others think and, like any other relationship, that's just wrong. i like your free spirit towards being able to love whoever, whenever, no matter what people think, quite an admirable quality. i will be sure to talk to you again. thank you again and i'll be sure to pm soon!

11-05-2007, 07:36 PM	#6
kelly Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: south of england Posts: 17	I am always very interested in Barb's posts there is obviouslly a lot of experience to be had there and i'm sure i will be asking questions soon.like this one Quote "The only true problem in GSA is the S. If a sexual relationship is not involved the problem could go away.." i take it the word could means maybe or maybe not is there any way to know ???????? kells

11-05-2007, 10:11 PM	#7
ShedMYskin Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: United States Posts: 24	Kelly, Welcome to the site. My H.S wrote on here she's couRAGEous...i dont agree with. "if a sexual relationship is not involved the problem could go away" because couples can have a sexual relationship and yes a stronger bond is created..but the key word is "could" its not guarenteed...Kelly what you have with your father is wonderful im sure...if you feel in your heart that you want t oestablish a sexual relationship then i would say go for it..im not telling you to go ahead and do it ...but if u feel it then all the better... dont try to do something if its gonan make you stop being yourself..do what you fee lin your heart is true and right for you.. .cant go wrong there... hope that helped..for what its worth, dont deny your feelings ...you wont know what ull miss if things worked out ....u never know until you try... N.P

11-06-2007, 04:10 PM	#9
kelly Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: south of england Posts: 17	why is this so complicated??? confused and sad kells

11-06-2007, 04:16 PM	#10
kelly Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: south of england Posts: 17	i feel sometimes im being punished for something i havent done i call this time my dark time i havent done anything wrong ........ why do i feel so ashamed today is a dark time kells