BEWARE SICK CHILD MOLESTER IN THE ROOM SEE HORRIBLE CONFESSI

[luvsbubby]

SEE HORRIBLE CONFESSION THERE IS A SICKO IN THE ROOM SAYING HE LIKES 2-14 YEAR OLD GIRLS. I HOPE ITS A COP CUZ THIS GUY MAKES ME WANT TO KILL HIM FOR REAL
LUVSBUBBY

[eggs]

SEE HORRIBLE CONFESSION THERE IS A SICKO IN THE ROOM SAYING HE LIKES 2-14 YEAR OLD GIRLS. I HOPE ITS A COP CUZ THIS GUY MAKES ME WANT TO KILL HIM FOR REAL
LUVSBUBBY

certainly there are questions about how pedophilic attractions can be expressed, but how can you question a person's right to experience their particular reality. what's more, zlurkers comments are essentially on the topic introduced by radical_neutural, & his suggestions have some value.

at what point wld you set limits on his right to exist? are you really in a position to judge him, given yr somewhat homocidal & fascistic ubermorality? wld you support a 'final solution' for pedophiles, given that the vast majority are guilty of no crime & harm nobody?

[luvsbubby]

Anyone who is turned on and attracted to children is sick. I dont care if they act or not. As a survivor of child abuse I have a right to think or say whatever I want just as you think he does. As a human being I have a right to judge also, just as people do. How dare you say that I am not entitled to my thoughts or actions yet some sick fuck does? And again, this site is not for child molesters and pedos. So why dont you just leave. If not I will continue to respond the way I have and be relentless in doing so. Just because I have thought about what I would do if I found out a sick fuck like this doesnt make me homicidal, and if it does I guess that makes me of criminal mind also. But fighting for the good fight, I will not back down and say you are right or that you have any rights. Again DIE a horrible death!!!!

[eggs]

Anyone who is turned on and attracted to children is sick. I dont care if they act or not.
well ok, lets say they are sick. is illness a crime? if a person is attracted to children, the best thing is for them to learn to live w/ their attraction & express it in ways that are not harmful to children. there are many people who have done this. personally i believe pedophilia is no more a sickness than masturbation, homosexuality or nymphomania, all of which have accompanied it in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders at some time.

it is obvious to anybody who studies pedophilia that integrating this phenomenon into society is far safer for children than turning pedophiles into an embittered & embattled outgroup. as i said above, most child molesters aren't pedophiles anyway, just sexual bullies whose victim happens to be a child.

here are a couple of quotes from experts in the field...

“Sexual arousal patterns to children are subjectively reported and physiologically demonstrable in a substantial minority of "normal" people. Historically, they have been common and accepted in varying cultures at varying times. This does not mean that they must be accepted culturally and legally today. The question is: Do they constitute a mental illness? Not unless we declare a lot of people in many cultures and in much of the past to be mentally ill. And certainly not by the criteria of DSM.”
Professor Richard Green, Research Director of the Gender Identity Clinic at Charing Cross Hospital

“The dilemma is tragic because the pedophile's sexual orientation is deeply rooted in the basic structure of his identity. Pedophilia is as much a part of him as is love for the same or opposite sex for the homosexual or heterosexual man or woman, the difference being that the one is accepted, while the other is categorically forbidden and virtually impossible to realize. In view of the pedophile's burden, the necessity of denying himself the experience of love and sexuality, he deserves respect, rather than contempt.”
Professor Gunter Schmidt, Director, Division of Sex Research, Psychiatric and Nerve Clinic, University of Hamburg, Germany


As a survivor of child abuse I have a right to think or say whatever I want just as you think he does. As a human being I have a right to judge also, just as people do. How dare you say that I am not entitled to my thoughts or actions yet some sick fuck does?

yes, he has rights just as you do. rights come w/ responsibilities. i'm very sorry to hear you are a survivor of child abuse. i agree with you that child molesting is one of the most chilling & repugnant of crimes. it really is the 'rape of childhood'. i am in no way minimizing the harm of that.

we have to be careful what we define as harmful when the evidence is more equivocal. we have to be especially careful when positive childhood experiences are reinterpreted by adults as abusive, or when a raft of normal, trivial or benign sexual interactions between adults & children are identified as 'suspect' or 'innapropriate' & ultimately 'abusive'. it is normal for adults & children to interact in sensual, loving, intimate ways, & this behaviour is sometimes so close to sexual behaviour that the lines can be blurry. there is no justification in describing these behaviours as abusive if they aren't.

the extreme moralism that attaches itself to this question increases the risk to children of being sexually assaulted. if you really want to limit the chances of what happened to you occuring again to other children, you need to get past yr own anger & pain. i kno this sounds patronizing, but its the truth.

And again, this site is not for child molesters and pedos. So why dont you just leave. If not I will continue to respond the way I have and be relentless in doing so.

radical_neutural was worried about his attraction to a 12yo half sister. i think he was as much concerned about his age as her family connection. a lot of pedophiles have experienced & managed strong attraction to young people, so their input might be helpful. i didn't see any posts that suggested he shld sleep w/ her. pedophilia 'sufferers' manage 'unnacceptable' sexual attractions all the time, just as gsa 'sufferers' do.

otoh, i didn't come here to browbeat anybody, & i am sensitive to the offence this might cause, so i apologize for upsetting you. i myself won't be saying anything else about pedopilia on this board unless somebody else prompts further discussion.

Just because I have thought about what I would do if I found out a sick fuck like this doesnt make me homicidal, and if it does I guess that makes me of criminal mind also. But fighting for the good fight, I will not back down and say you are right or that you have any rights. Again DIE a horrible death!!!!

whatever

[mwoo6i1485]

totally agree i thaught this site was a releise and support for consenting adults not for the amusement of child molesters...

Anyone who is turned on and attracted to children is sick. I dont care if they act or not. As a survivor of child abuse I have a right to think or say whatever I want just as you think he does.

That someone did evil towards you doesn't make someone else accountable for those actions. Nor does it make the statement 'pedophile=child molester' true.

As a human being I have a right to judge also, just as people do. How dare you say that I am not entitled to my thoughts or actions yet some sick fuck does? And again, this site is not for child molesters and pedos.

There aren't any child molesters here. And whether the site is for some other law abiding person isn't up to you.

So why dont you just leave. If not I will continue to respond the way I have and be relentless in doing so. Just because I have thought about what I would do if I found out a sick fuck like this doesnt make me homicidal, and if it does I guess that makes me of criminal mind also. But fighting for the good fight, I will not back down and say you are right or that you have any rights. Again DIE a horrible death!!!!

If he doesn't have any rights, then human rights don't exist and none of what was done to you was wrong [nor is any atrocity wrong - murder, terrorism, death camps, all A-okay]. Be careful of the statements you make about the value of human life - they always apply to you too.

[rollingrocker1972]

I've been expecting his type for some time now. It is quite common for those who abuse children to try and insinuate themselves into communities based around another paraphilia. Child molesters have infiltrated the gay community in the form of Nambla, to the point now that many people see no difference between a gay man and a man who molests little boys.

GSA is itself a form of incest, and child molesters have so long dominated the question of incest as a whole that the term incest is now nearly synonymous with the abuse of a child by an adult relative.

The truth of course is that the sexual abuse of children has nothing to do with consensual adult homosexuality, consensual adult incest, or with GSA.

So now a child molester has made his way into this forum as well. This is to be expected. Cockroaches will invade your kitchen, rats will scurry around in between the walls, and mice will nibble at the grain in your pantry. Child molesters are vermin too, and similarly difficult to eradicate.

The only way to get rid of a child molester is to refuse to engage them. Do not debate them. Do not entertain their arguments. Do not enter into dialogue with them. Whenever and whereever they appear, either ignore them, or be steadfast in your condemnation of them. Do not allow their sophistry to confuse the issue. Do not make the mistake of trying to reason with them. There is no use trying to talk to them, or convince them of the error of their ways for they are evil, and evil does not listen to reason.

[zlurker]

I've been expecting his type for some time now. It is quite common for those who abuse children to try and insinuate themselves into communities based around another paraphilia. Child molesters have infiltrated the gay community in the form of Nambla, to the point now that many people see no difference between a gay man and a man who molests little boys.
Perhaps you are part of the problem, since you cannot seem to distinguish between "attracted to children" and "child molester". If that is to be accepted, then why should the average person bother to distinguish between "gay" and "child molester"?

GSA is itself a form of incest, and child molesters have so long dominated the question of incest as a whole that the term incest is now nearly synonymous with the abuse of a child by an adult relative.
Yes, and child molesters have so long dominated the question of attraction to minors that the term pedophile is now nearly synonymous with the term child molester. I do not call myself a pedophile for that reason. I am a Child Lover (specifically, a Girl Lover). In my opinion, "Child Love" and "child molestation" are fundamentally incompatible.

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The only way to get rid of a child molester is to refuse to engage them. Do not debate them. Do not entertain their arguments. Do not enter into dialogue with them. Whenever and whereever they appear, either ignore them, or be steadfast in your condemnation of them. Do not allow their sophistry to confuse the issue. Do not make the mistake of trying to reason with them. There is no use trying to talk to them, or convince them of the error of their ways for they are evil, and evil does not listen to reason.
So... your advice is to do your best ostrich impression so as to remain willfully ignorant?

Anyway, where is this child molester you are talking about?

[luvsbubby]

Rollingrocker
I totally agree with everything you said, and its sad that these ignorant people come here professing to be so intelligent. So intelligent that they have come here and have not realized that just their presence here is out of context. The people here are either involved with a relative, or struggling with whether they should or not. There is nothing in this site that refers to children, except the occasional minor who questions whether they should be with a relative. They even failed to realize that Radical is a child himself and that doesnt qualify him as a child molester or being into child porn. If they were smart enough to know what the definition of incest is they would know that in the definition it is implied that incest is consentual sex between to person who are related. Nothing about children in the definition. My hb and I are still going strong after 6.5 years, how are you and yr sis? Hope you had a romantic and sexy Valentine's Day. Thanks for the reply to the post, it helped me calm the desire to continue argueing an endless fight with these dumbfucks! I have nothing more to say to them.
luvsbubby

[samtroy]

I find it mad that you too can be so sanctimonious about zlurker who is NOT saying he is a paedophile while at the same time asking each other about sexy Valentines with your sister! In the eyes of the law that too is an offence so think long and hard about condemning others when you too are on unclear moral grounbd. I understand that this forum is about GSA but surely about how to help people overcome it as much as possible.

I find it infuriating that you expect people to be tolerant of your sexual preferences and "taboos" but are absolutely not tolerent of others yourself.

How does that make you any better than someone who thinks your sexual preferences are sick and preverted?

Pedophille's do not equal child molestors. Many people, everyday people struggle with attraction to children, even their own children. It is a private hell that you know nothing about, how dare you condemn us!

Child molestors are almost entirely people who are situational sex offenders. They don't care its a child, they don't respect the child; ithe child is there and they care only about their pathetic little genitalia.
They are often rapists. A child molestor is as likely to attack an elderly person. It is about power and control, and being a weak, mentally ill person.
Of course I say molestor in the sense of a forced sexual act upon a child.
They are rapists. Not pedophiles.

sure, its possible to be a pedophile and also be a mentally ill person that needs to overpower and assault weaker beings to make themselves feel good.
But they are NOT THE SAME THING. They are seperate!

Some people are so attracted to children they make a mistake and enter what is at the time a loving, mutal relationship. This is only a mistake because of how society views these relationships. It is illegal. The child most likely will grow up in confusion and guilt about the relationship, and in the end this hurts the child.

that is why it is wrong. Because society does not accept it.

But the fact that you so violently reacted to someones THOUGHTS is just horrifying. You should really take a look in the mirror and ask yourself why you need to react that way. Think it through.

Peophiles LOVE children. They don't want to hurt them. And I should know.

[luvsbubby]

Violet
You are in the wrong place for whatever it is that you are interested in,,this place is for people who have issues with consentual relationship that involve people who are related..not paedohileor child love.
luvsbubby

Rollingrocker
I totally agree with everything you said, and its sad that these ignorant people come here professing to be so intelligent. So intelligent that they have come here and have not realized that just their presence here is out of context. The people here are either involved with a relative, or struggling with whether they should or not. There is nothing in this site that refers to children, except the occasional minor who questions whether they should be with a relative. They even failed to realize that Radical is a child himself and that doesnt qualify him as a child molester or being into child porn. If they were smart enough to know what the definition of incest is they would know that in the definition it is implied that incest is consentual sex between to person who are related. Nothing about children in the definition. My hb and I are still going strong after 6.5 years, how are you and yr sis? Hope you had a romantic and sexy Valentine's Day. Thanks for the reply to the post, it helped me calm the desire to continue argueing an endless fight with these dumbfucks! I have nothing more to say to them.
luvsbubby

Truth,
Very sickening if someone is attracted to a child.. Im sorry that is way overboard and they need to be locked away :x I surely hope that there are not any sick perverts on the board..

[MamaR]

I've been observing, lately, and not involving myself very much, mainly because my views on the ethics of acting on GSA seem to upset some members. But THIS, I had to address.

At least, unwise though I may consider acting on GSA to be, it is between consenting ADULTS. If a pedophile is trying to persuade themselves that desiring sex with an innocent and malleable minor and feeding that desire with child porn is OK, then they are sicker than the sickest.

GSA, which I have experienced, is the result of long and unnatural separations between closely related kin and is a "syndrome or pheonmenon" rather than a pathological disease. Research is being done and it is being recognized, more and more, for just what it is.

Pedophilia is a disease, in that it has a definite and provable pathology. It is a sexual fixation on the undeveloped bodies of children. It is dangerous and damaging in that those who act on this are doing unimaginable damage to a TRUE VICTIM...a child. Bouncing around the Internet and finding a forum dealing with GSA and hoping to find kindred spirits there is nothing more than indulging your disease.

I remember watching an old Phil Donahue show where a member of the, so-called, "Man-Boy Love" 'organization' and other pedophiles were trying to tout the rights of its members to exploit the bodies of children for their own sexual gratification. One really execrable man gave out their specious motto, "Sex before 8 or else it's too late." WHAT DRIVEL..they claimed the children were "pleasured" by their molestations.

I wanted to jump through that TV screen and tell that piece of pustulant flesh that I was molested as a child and there was NOTHING of anything remotely resembling "pleasure" in it. There was just fear and pain and unearned guilt. So if you feel you need to justify the feelings you have of desire for a child, go to a psychiatrist. Don't try to push the pedophile's agenda here on a list where people are struggling enough as it is.

Whatever my opinion of acting on GSA might be, this group is about adults in complex relationships with other adults. The (DEFINITELY HARMFUL) sexual exploitation of children is not a subject that belongs here.

[JJH]

Please Feel free to give any info, on what the law is with regards to a sexual relation between close blood relives and I totaly agree with the comments made, GSA and child molestation, 2 different things, personaly, I think the best way to deal with it, would be to cut off their Penis's so they need to sit to urinate and take away theor testies, if that don't work put them up against a wall and shoot them! Thank You

[Victor]

Perhaps you are part of the problem, since you cannot seem to distinguish between "attracted to children" and "child molester". If that is to be accepted, then why should the average person bother to distinguish between "gay" and "child molester"?


Yes, and child molesters have so long dominated the question of attraction to minors that the term pedophile is now nearly synonymous with the term child molester. I do not call myself a pedophile for that reason. I am a Child Lover (specifically, a Girl Lover). In my opinion, "Child Love" and "child molestation" are fundamentally incompatible.

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So... your advice is to do your best ostrich impression so as to remain willfully ignorant?

Anyway, where is this child molester you are talking about?

Problem is, Zlurker, that this is a website dedicated to GSA ONLY. We do not caiter to those who suffer from the metal disfunction of pedophilia. There is no real comparison. I recommend you find a different website, one that caiters to your particular disease, and that you seek out competent professional help. You are mentally ill. Get help.

[rollingrocker1972]

Why do child molesters always seem to suffer from the delusion that romantic relationships between related adults is somehow tied to the rape of children?

The worst thing about pedophiles, even worse than the things they do to children, is their cavalier attitude about it. They've bullshitted themselves until they actually believe that raping a child is ok, and they're bound and determined to convince everyone else to think the same way.

They should be glad that they're doing this through the internet and not in person because someone coming up to me with that kind of crap would quickly find themselves in a world of agonizing pain and permanent injury.

[JJH]

Well done Vic you tell him. lol No room here for anything but people with GSA or needing help with it in some way.

[Victor]

For the record, children cannot give their consent with conscious will and a full understanding of the consequences of the action that follow. It is for this reason that children, especially prepubescent children, are protected by the law from those who would take advantage of a child's own naivette'. We call these laws "statutory".

People who are ill are not necessarily criminals. But to be honest it takes a sick mind to kill someone, let alone rape someone. Their illness that leads them to kill or rape is not an excuse for the harm they cause. Such people, while very i'll, should be locked away in padded rooms to protect society, and so as to treat them for their illnesses.

Pedophiles are incapable of having a normal relationship with adults, including a sexual relationship. As I understand it, it is the absence of any real difference in prepubesent children which is part of the appeal to the pedophile. This absence of sexuality makes male children just as desirable to the pedophile as a female, even when the pedophile is determined to be heterosexual. This often confuses those who don't understand the disease, thinking that it is a "gay" disease, when in fact most pedophiles are heterosexual.

I have a great deal of pitty for the pedophile. His illness makes him among the most reviled of all people, and is very incapable of helping himself, or resisting his pedophilic desires. I have met only two pedophiles who admitted the disease, but were strong enough mentally to resist the urge that drives their desires and actions.

Get help. If you need me to, PM me your location and I will provide you a listing of treatment centers and doctors in your area specializing in the treatement of your disease. I expect you to use that list and get treatment.

[sixep666]

Whilst i entirly agree with everything Victor has said, and applaud the content of the post, I support luvsbubby and JJH in the strong belief that there is no place on this site for people with problems of the afore mentioned disease, and i for one would be interested in Barbs view on this matter, as i am very gratefull to her for all her hard work and dedication to have started and kept going this amazing site for people affected by G.S.A.

[Mellee71]

I know this is alittle late, but I am doing some research, because I just found out my son was molested. I have to say that Eggs your one sick puppy. Are you a molester too? I wouldn't be surprised. Molersters deserve to have their dicks cut off. They need to go to jail. I am going that route, I am going to make sure his molester goes down for the crime he committed against my *5* year old child. He also threatened him with bodily harm if he told. He is lucky I don't kill him. I will make sure he goes to jail, then I will make sure I find a way to let all of the murders and junkies know that he is a molester and he molested an innocent baby boy. Ya see even the most hardened criminals are sickened by rapists. That'll be justice. All of those who support the molester in this room, your all sickos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!








certainly there are questions about how pedophilic attractions can be expressed, but how can you question a person's right to experience their particular reality. what's more, zlurkers comments are essentially on the topic introduced by radical_neutural, & his suggestions have some value.

at what point wld you set limits on his right to exist? are you really in a position to judge him, given yr somewhat homocidal & fascistic ubermorality? wld you support a 'final solution' for pedophiles, given that the vast majority are guilty of no crime & harm nobody?